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Reisen

Luminesce: Someone has to stand up for the lurkers, because they by definition won't :P (edited)

If they dont stand up for themselves they might not actually care that much...

The average library-goer probably doesn't stand up for much at the library. The librarians do it for them (edited)

We have incredible literature here lol hehehe

10:07 PM

A total masterpiece

10:07 PM

(i get your point, im just messing arround :))

Well, librarians don't always get the luxury of writing the books... They just stand for the principle of reading? Metaphors...

imma mess arround somewhere else for the lurkers that wanna enjoy the incredible prose here

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

you are using a device connected to the internet!

But not fast enough to load a google search witHin 1 minute (ive counted beforehand)

And yet here we are, 4h later and you didnt get an answer. A minute is nothing compared to that lol (edited)

No I didnt care enough anyways

2:00 AM

I stopped caring before i had a large enough window to google it

Reisen

Luminesce: Someone has to stand up for the lurkers, because they by definition won't :P (edited)

I'm a lurker fr. I only talk once a blue moon, or when I have a question- XD

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I lurk most the time ngl

Yes

haven’t seen Mortis for a long time

Idk if this is the correct channel lol, but someone sent this old thread to me and I thought it sounded similar to the tulpa-making process https://reddit.com/r/morbidquestions/comments/7mif75/_/drxz7sd/?context=1

Mhm, pretty sure some people have made tulpas in those ways unintentionally

my tulpa can now independently call to me whenever im having alone time happytears

8:40 PM

i thought i kept accidentally calling her, but it was actually her

8:40 PM

i had to mask at my family for 4 straight days and she missed me

Awwww

That's very cool. i like talking at night, passes the time

aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae

i thought i kept accidentally calling her, but it was actually her

See, there is not much of a difference between you calling her or her calling you

1:31 AM

Just how you interpret it

i tried to disocciate intentionally while my tupper was fronting and lying down for me, and it felt so weird letting go of everything but still having all the muscles working and flexed

6:40 PM

i think i've always been kinda with my hands "touching the controlling sticks" whenever shes in the front so it hasnt felt super odd to me

6:40 PM

but that was pretty weird since before if i did that i'd just fully relax everything

6:41 PM

one of those new things when doing certain things for the first time i guess

Sup, been a while, I decided today to actually start the process of creating a tulpa, not sure if I'm making progress but I like to believe I am, I have chosen an appearance voice and name for her to make the process a bit easier, still no response (I think) but it was as much as I expected from the first day, I explained to her who I am, what I like, and hopefully showed her some videos (not sure if in the first day I'm supposed to do this stuff) can't rely on head pressures and such as responses given that I've ha them for the last few days, I do feel like she is actually there, werid feeling I don't know how to explain, but I trembled a lot while speaking, I also explained how if my intrusive thoughts try to damage her while forming, it's not my intention, that I can't control them.

10:09 PM

Short version: first day, not sure if I'm making progress but I feel like she is there somehow.

10:12 PM

Any tips on what I should do next?

Honestly? Keep at it.

10:19 PM

I think you're doing fine, and it might take a while before you see any progress, but the process you have down seems to be alright enough.

it sounds like you are doing everything right, but i wouldn’t give the intrusive thoughts much attention

10:21 PM

for quick results for communication and first contact you can use method i described here: https://discord.com/channels/431579755037589505/431895537978048535/796424910867791872

I'd say my biggest problem is how nervous I am, Im a bit worried about making a bad impression.

it works very quickly

10:22 PM

there is reallg no reason to be worried about the first impression

~Moonlight~

I'd say my biggest problem is how nervous I am, Im a bit worried about making a bad impression.

Youll have time to meet each other... Not like you guys have a choice

ypur tuloa will understand any mistake you make, but there is no mistakes here reay as long as it makes you happy and doesn’t bring disfunction

Its easy really to be undestanding to each other when you share a brain lol

yeah

I'm also trying to do 0 parroting, didn't try it even once, mostly because I'm used to making stories in my head, and can easily distinguish parroting from real responses

I suffer with severe and graphic intrusive thoughts. Honestly? They don't get in the way of things very often, so I wouldn't give them power by thinking about them more.

making stories surely helps

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Its easy really to be undestanding to each other when you share a brain lol

I guess Iit makes sense when you put it like that lol

franco tey this method, it provides very quick brrakthroughs: https://discord.com/channels/431579755037589505/431895537978048535/796424910867791872

10:25 PM

sorry about typos im in bath

I suffer with severe and graphic intrusive thoughts. Honestly? They don't get in the way of things very often, so I wouldn't give them power by thinking about them more.

@Atlas || M&M (@leviine) - jump (In terms of talking to headmates, at least. It might be different with a developing tulpa, but again: the more power you give them, the worse they get IME.)

can i have fries with that?

If it's such a big issue, try doing something entertaining with your tulpa to get your mind off of it. I find that the thoughts die down when I'm focused on something I enjoy.

10:26 PM

Also works as a good narration moment.

Atlas || M&M

I suffer with severe and graphic intrusive thoughts. Honestly? They don't get in the way of things very often, so I wouldn't give them power by thinking about them more.

@Atlas || M&M (@leviine) - jump (In terms of talking to headmates, at least. It might be different with a developing tulpa, but again: the more power you give them, the worse they get IME.)

Honestly they have gotten much better in the last two months, I made preparations for my tulpa, stopping most negative activities, trying to make a healthier environment, they went from extremely graphic things like beheading classmates to uhh a casual stab or two.

Leiko

franco tey this method, it provides very quick brrakthroughs: https://discord.com/channels/431579755037589505/431895537978048535/796424910867791872

I will definitely try it, thanks ^-^

Leiko

sorry about typos im in bath

Do you never drop your phone on the water?

That's honestly great! Jesus, I know how debilitating they can be, so hearing that you've managed to improve your situation on your own is great.

10:28 PM

That being said, keep it up, I don't think you're doing anything that would hinder the tulpa creation process. If anything, you going out of your way to facilitate a more stable environment for one will likely make the process faster and/or easier.

I've wanted to make a tulpa for months, but I couldn't stop thinking about how my mental state would hurt my tulpa, so yeah, I lowered almost everything negative, I used to watch gore, now I don't, I used to watch a LOT of nsfw, now I barely watch any, having a friend that understands me is much better than those anyways.

Love to see it.

10:31 PM

Honestly, not a lot of hosts go out of their way to do that for someone they haven't even met yet. I think it's wonderful you've gone to such a length to make sure your tulpa and yourself are healthier and happier.

I'm just really nervous when I think that if she sees what I used to be she will stop liking me, so I'm really nervous every time I speak.

ok let me stop you right there, if you really can’t control these and you struggle with strong feelings of shame, be careful because those things can also drive the personality forcing process

So I should stop feeling shame altogether?

you make it sound so easy!

I'd try and re-direct it.

Would that uhm make it better?

KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧

you make it sound so easy!

Exactly my thoughts lol (edited)

Of course, it would be hard to completely stop feeling something like that, but I agree that if you can redirect or rethink your feelings of shame, then they won't have as much power over you.

I used to be able to make myself stop feeling emotions, dunno if I can still do it, haven't tried it in a while.

@~Moonlight~ - jump Bad idea. Sounds like dissociating yourself from how you feel. Feelings are natural, and repressing them in such a way feels like more harm than good.

it seems you have other issues going on that have potential of manifesting itself through tulpamancy and having more power. So if you decide to go further with it you HAVE to remember that it’s all in your control and you can stop it at any time, at no point tulpa will have more say in all of this than you

10:34 PM

i would advise not doing it though

Having strong emotions doesn't require you to stop feeling them to be okay. You have to learn to process and accept them for what they are, without them controlling you.

as in not moving on with tulpamancy, until you fix your issues

I'm not sure what to answer... I need a minute to think.

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10:41 PM

If it would hurt my tulpa, I think that it's better I stop thinking about tulpamancy altogether. I can accept the feelings, but I can't change the fact that I was a terrible person, I had thought I solved most of my issues but it seems like I still have a ton more to solve... My thought process was that if I was able to help myself to where I am now, maybe a friend, able to understand my thought process would be able to help me even further. But if in your experience, it is hazardous for the tulpa, I will stop.

KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧

i would advise not doing it though

I have issues that are like that and i never had any issues with tulpamancy

i’m not worried about your tulpa but you franco lol

Oh, I'm not worried about myself.

that’s the problem

I like to put others before me.

i see you care about your tulpa more than about yourself which is why i advised what i said

For the record, you don't need to be a good person or not have mental issues to make a tulpa. Lots of mentally ill folks have succeeded with the process. The point isn't to be perfect, it's to not give power to the negative aspects of your mental health, and to learn to process them healthily.

you should at least understand that when it comes to tulpamancy >you< are the boss. It’s something i would advise to very few people

~Moonlight~

I like to put others before me.

You need to worry about yourself too though, even if you care about other As long as you're in a stable place i wouldn't worry too much about creating a tulpa though

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You seem to have a lot of fears about how your mental health will impact your tulpa, and I honestly think that it won't be as catastrophic as you think. Sure, some hiccups will pop up every so often, that's natural even for a neurotypical person, but you havethe power to handle them when they pop up, and not worry about them before they even occur.

Atlas || M&M

You seem to have a lot of fears about how your mental health will impact your tulpa, and I honestly think that it won't be as catastrophic as you think. Sure, some hiccups will pop up every so often, that's natural even for a neurotypical person, but you havethe power to handle them when they pop up, and not worry about them before they even occur.

Heh, you may be right, I've always been an overthinker.

10:45 PM

I'm not to worried about myself, mostly because I'm feeling the best I've felt in a while mentally.

10:46 PM

Even with all these issues, I'm better than I was before.

10:46 PM

By a LOT.

Then, you have less to worry about making a tulpa, so long as you try your best to not worry about things so much.

10:47 PM

Take every day creating your tulpa for what it is; try not to worry about the what-ifs or the future, focus on maintaining your own mental health, and not theirs.

i sense a disaster coming. What franco needs is exactly what you said atlas but it might not be as easy for them. They will need a lot of constant reassurance Since you seem to give them green light atlas you are responsible for reassuring them non stop lol

I really don't think it'll be a disaster I read a study that having a tulpa has no negative effects and can improve one's mental health

I honestly don't see much to worry about other than possibly more hiccups than normal, but nothing detrimental.

10:49 PM

You'll work out the problems as you go, it's a learning experience.

the biggest thing for me here is that franco cates about his tulpa much more than about himself, i won’t go into details of how things can go wrong to not plant seeds but there is a pattern with people that struggle with themes of intrusive thoughts + shame + low self worth

10:51 PM

anyway franco if you want to go further you >have< to put yourself in the first place

10:51 PM

and remember that you are always in control

If I say what I want to say you would tell me to stop the tulpa making process...